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The Vance-Walz Debate Could Be the Most Influential VP Debate in U.S. History
October 01, 2024
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Left: Republican vice presidential nominee Sen. J.D. Vance speaks at a campaign rally on August 6 in Philadelphia. Right: Democratic vice presidential nominee Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz addresses the Democratic National Convention on August 21 in Chicago. Justin Sullivan/Getty Images; Drew Hallowell/Getty Images

As we head into one of the most critical elections in modern U.S. history, the vice-presidential debate between J.D. Vance and Tim Walz has the potential to be the most influential VP debate ever. With Vice President Kamala Harris dodging detailed policy discussions and offering little more than vague soundbites throughout the campaign, this debate will be the first opportunity for voters to hear substantial policy discourse—something that has been sorely missing from the Harris/Walz ticket. Here’s why this debate could eclipse previous VP matchups and alter the trajectory of the race.

1. Kamala Harris: The Queen of Word Salad

Vice President Kamala Harris has become synonymous with vague, meandering answers that often leave the public and media searching for any coherent policy stance. Whether in interviews or public appearances, Harris tends to lean on her background, reciting personal anecdotes about growing up in a middle-class neighborhood or her work as a prosecutor. However, she has consistently avoided specifics on pressing issues, from immigration to the economy. Critics, like Peggy Noonan from The Wall Street Journal, have pointed out that Harris’s inability to deliver clear, direct answers reflects poorly on her ability to lead.

Voters are hungry for real answers. Harris has yet to hold a formal press conference during this campaign, avoiding direct engagement on policy. Meanwhile, her running mate, Tim Walz, has mirrored this strategy, offering little more than progressive platitudes without diving into the details of his platform. The American people have grown tired of the “word salad” responses from the Harris/Walz camp, and this debate will finally offer the stark contrast voters are seeking.

2. J.D. Vance: A Voice for the Working Class with Substance

While the Harris/Walz campaign has relied on vague talking points, J.D. Vance offers something different—clarity and substance. Vance has been dismissed by Democrats as “weird,” but his appeal to the working-class voter is undeniable. Raised in the heart of Ohio, Vance understands the economic struggles of middle America, and he speaks to these issues with authenticity. Unlike the Democratic ticket, which avoids direct policy discussions, Vance is a policy wonk with a deep understanding of complex issues that matter to voters, from economic revitalization to trade and manufacturing.

This debate is Vance’s opportunity to showcase his command of policy and, in doing so, expose Tim Walz as a politician disconnected from the Rust Belt’s reality. Walz, who allowed his state to spiral into chaos during the riots of 2020, will have to answer for his failures in leadership—a stark contrast to Vance’s promise to restore order and economic stability in struggling regions. Vance’s ability to communicate real policy while connecting with working-class voters is what sets him apart in this debate and could be the deciding factor for millions of Americans.

3. Tim Walz: Rust Belt Fraud or Progressive Puppet?

Tim Walz will face significant challenges in this debate, as his record as governor of Minnesota will come under intense scrutiny. During the summer of 2020, Minneapolis became a focal point of the nationwide protests and riots following the death of George Floyd. Walz was heavily criticized for his mishandling of the situation, as the state suffered massive property damage, and many Minnesotans felt abandoned by his lack of decisive action. This debate gives Vance the chance to highlight Walz’s failures, showing that his leadership during the crisis was weak and ineffective.

In addition, Walz’s support for far-left policies—like tampons in boys’ bathrooms and other progressive cultural issues—will alienate moderate voters, especially those in swing states like Ohio and Pennsylvania. These policies may align with the progressive wing of the Democratic Party, but they do little to address the concerns of everyday Americans in the Rust Belt who care more about jobs, safety, and economic opportunity. Vance will likely draw a sharp contrast between Walz’s out-of-touch progressive positions and his own focus on economic growth and rebuilding American industry.

4. J.D. Vance’s Strength: Mastery of Policy vs. Walz’s Vagueness

One of the defining features of this debate will be the stark difference in how the candidates handle policy discussions. J.D. Vance is a master of policy minutiae. While President Trump—known for his bold, sweeping rhetoric—does not often dive into the weeds of policy, Vance excels in this area. Trump, having already served four years in office, doesn’t need to get into the fine details because his record speaks for itself—he was vetted by his performance as president, during which the country experienced historic economic growth, energy independence, and stronger border security.

Vance fills the gap by offering voters the detailed policy arguments that Trump doesn’t always emphasize. Vance’s expertise on issues like manufacturing, trade, and working-class economics will stand in stark contrast to the Harris/Walz ticket, which has so far been all slogans and no substance. This debate will force Walz to engage on real issues—something the Democratic campaign has been avoiding for months. As voters become increasingly frustrated with the lack of specific answers from Harris and Walz, Vance’s command of policy will be a breath of fresh air.

Additionally, Vance can effectively counter the false narrative that MAGA’s future agenda is driven by Project 2025, a think tank plan attributed to the Heritage Foundation. In reality, Vance will likely emphasize the real vision of MAGA: Agenda 47, a platform focused on economic revitalization, energy independence, and restoring American greatness. By clearly articulating the policies behind Agenda 47, Vance can dispel misconceptions and offer a compelling alternative to Walz’s vague progressive talking points.

5. The Debate America Has Been Waiting For

The American people are desperate for substance. In an election where much of the public discourse has been dominated by rhetorical dodges and talking-point politics, this debate offers something different. J.D. Vance will bring clarity, detail, and a focus on real issues that have been missing from the campaign thus far. For the first time, voters will hear from a candidate who can not only connect with the working-class electorate but also explain, in detail, how his policies will improve their lives.

This is a critical moment for the Republican ticket, as Vance’s clear command of policy will stand in stark contrast to the vague and often contradictory positions of Kamala Harris and Tim Walz. Where the Democrats have been offering word salads and avoiding press conferences, Vance will deliver concrete solutions to the problems facing America. This debate could be the moment where the Republican ticket begins to decisively pull ahead, showing the American people that there is a real alternative to the vague promises and empty rhetoric that have characterized the Harris/Walz campaign.

This VP debate has the potential to be the most influential in U.S. history. J.D. Vance will have the opportunity to showcase his policy expertise and connect with the working-class voters who feel neglected by the progressive agenda. Meanwhile, Tim Walz will be forced to defend his record and provide real answers—something his campaign has avoided up to this point. This debate will finally give voters what they’ve been waiting for: a substantive conversation about the future of America.

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  • National Security Adviser Susan Rice

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Sourced exclusively from the intelligence community (not the Department of Justice (DOJ)) these documents reveal that all 17 U.S. intelligence agencies unanimously concluded there was no Russian interference in the 2016 election. Below is a detailed timeline of events, followed by an analysis under distinct subheadings, shedding light on this alleged conspiracy and its implications.



Timeline of Events
 

Pre-November 2016: Intelligence Community Consensus

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December 9, 2016: Secret White House Meeting
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Post-December 9, 2016: Fabrication of Intelligence
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January 6, 2017: Politicized Intelligence Assessment Released
  • DNI James Clapper released an Intelligence Community Assessment (ICA) claiming Russia intervened to help Trump win, ignoring earlier dissenting intelligence. This report, allegedly based on the Steele dossier, fueled media narratives and set the stage for the Mueller investigation.
2017–2019: Mueller Investigation and Its Fallout
  • The fabricated assessment underpinned Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into Trump-Russia collusion, costing tens of millions of dollars. The 2019 Mueller report found no evidence of Trump campaign collusion but affirmed Russian interference efforts, aligning with the politicized ICA. This led to two impeachments and years of political harassment against Trump.
July 18–19, 2025: Gabbard’s Declassification and DOJ Referral
  • DNI Tulsi Gabbard declassified over 100 pages of documents, including emails, memos, and intelligence assessments from 2016–2017. Labeling the Obama administration’s actions a “treasonous conspiracy,” she turned the documents over to the DOJ for potential criminal prosecution of Obama, Comey, Brennan, Clapper, Kerry, Rice, and McCabe.

Intelligence Community’s Unanimous Finding

The core revelation from Gabbard’s declassified documents is the intelligence community’s consensus that Russia did not interfere in the 2016 election. All 17 agencies (CIA, FBI, NSA, DHS, and others) concluded before and after the election that Russia lacked the intent or capability to hack or alter election results. This finding, documented in internal reports and the suppressed December 2016 PDB, directly contradicts the narrative pushed by the Obama administration and amplified by legacy media for years.
 

Strategic Release to Avoid Lawfare Accusations

Gabbard’s decision to release these documents through the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, rather than the DOJ, is a calculated move to sidestep accusations of prosecutorial misconduct or “lawfare.” By making the evidence public and referring it to the DOJ, Gabbard ensures transparency and shifts the responsibility to Attorney General Pam Bondi to pursue charges. This approach deflects claims of political retribution, as the allegations originate from intelligence community findings, not a prosecutor’s office.
 

Legal Pathways for Accountability

The documents open several legal avenues for prosecution. Under 18 U.S.C. § 371, conspiracy to defraud the United States allows prosecutors to file charges in any federal district court, bypassing potentially biased Washington, D.C., juries. Additionally, 18 U.S.C. § 3237 permits venue selection in any district touched by the crime, such as New York or Virginia, where less partisan juries may be found. Crucially, there is no statute of limitations for federal treason, meaning figures like Obama, Comey, and Brennan could face charges for their alleged roles. However, military tribunals are not an option, as treason and related crimes are tried in civilian Article III courts, not military commissions, despite some online speculation.
 

Challenges in Securing Convictions

Despite the compelling evidence, convicting high-profile figures like Obama in Washington, D.C., courts is unlikely due to the city’s heavily Democratic jury pool. A 2020 bipartisan Senate Intelligence Committee report, which affirmed Russian interference but found no vote tampering or Trump campaign collusion, may also complicate public perception. To overcome these challenges, prosecutors could leverage multi-district venue options or focus on conspiracy charges to pursue justice in less partisan jurisdictions. A “nuclear option” of Congress reorganizing the D.C. federal court system, while theoretically possible, is politically unfeasible given the slim Republican majority.
 

Broader Implications and Public Response

These revelations, if substantiated, expose a deliberate attempt by the Obama administration to sabotage Trump’s presidency through fabricated intelligence, constituting what Gabbard calls an “attempted coup.” The documents undermine years of media narratives and political actions, including the Mueller investigation and Trump’s impeachments. Public reaction, as noted on platforms like X, reflects deep skepticism about D.C. courts’ impartiality, with calls for accountability resonating among Trump supporters. The truth, long obscured, now fuels demands for justice and a reckoning for the alleged misuse of intelligence community power.
 
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Note: This article is based on the provided transcript and declassified documents cited from credible sources, including Turley Talks, The Guardian, Fox News, and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence. Readers are encouraged to review primary sources for a comprehensive understanding.


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